Monday, June 29, 2009

PART TWELVE—Read It Before It Is Banned By The US Government

Editor's note: All notations will be cited when this series of articles have concluded. The information is based on research contained in Tom Horn's upcoming new book:

The Lost Symbol Found And The Final Mystery Of The Great Seal Revealed
A Terrifying And Prophetic Cipher, Hidden From The World By The U.S. Government For Over 200 Years Is Here

“Not only were many of the founders of the United States Government Masons, but they received aid from a secret and august body existing in Europe, which helped them to establish this country for a peculiar and particular purpose known only to the initiated few. The Great Seal is the signature of this exalted body—unseen and for the most part unknown—and the unfinished pyramid upon its reverse side is a trestleboard setting forth symbolically the task to the accomplishment of which the United States Government was dedicated from the day of its inception.”—Manly P. Hall, 33rd Degree Freemason
Of all the “Masonic symbols” associated with the founding of America, Manly Hall viewed the design of the Great Seal of the United States as the highest signature of occult planning by Freemasons. This was not only due to the repetition of the number 13, the pentagram shapes, the uncapped pyramid or the Phoenix-Eagle, but Hall, like other experts in mystical literature and Western esoteric tradition understood the “mass of occult and Masonic symbols” on the Great Seal represented both the tangible ambitions of a new society and a metaphysical concept attributed to Hermes Trismegistus, which means that visible matter is mirrored by unseen reality, or, “as above, so below.”

Hall believed what this meant practically was that only students of archaic or esoteric symbolism would be able to decipher the true meaning hidden within the subterfuge of the seal’s design and that the symbolism was thus intended to convey two sets of meaning—the first for non-illuminates having to do with certain natural or historical issues perceived to be important to society; and the second deeper occult truisms meant for comprehension by members of the exalted Order.

While examining the mountains of literature publicly available on the Great Seal including its history from the original resolution in 1776 to its final approval in 1782, it is important to note that general harmony exists among researchers concerning the superficial interpretation of the primary symbols.

For instance the obverse side of the Great Seal portrays a Bald Eagle clutching a bundle of arrows in its left talon, while in its right claw it grips an olive branch. The eagle is looking to the right, indicating that, while the United States prefers peace, it is always ready to go to war if necessary. The original 13 colonies are said to be represented in the 13 leaves of the olive branch, 13 olives on the branch, 13 bars and stripes in the shield, 13 letters in the phrase ‘E Pluribus Unum’ and the 13 stars above the eagles head (which, as researchers point out, forms a hexagram). On the reverse of the seal the number 13 continues in the stone layers of the pyramid and the 13 letters of ‘Annuit Coeptis.’

Yet according to esotericists like Hall, the extraordinary truth about the number 13 so affixed to the Great Seal was actually more than representation of the original colonies. It was a marker for those who understood it as a Masonic ‘power number,’ sacred to the Moon among other things and representative of the head of Isis, while the Eagle, Hall wrote, was a shrewd masquerade for the mythical Phoenix so important to Masonic mysticism. Hall partly came to this conclusion based on the early seal prototype of William Barton showing a Phoenix in its nest of flames.

“Most of the designs originally submitted had the Phoenix bird on its nest of flames as the central motif,” Hall said. “Its selection would of course have been appropriate…. [because] the Phoenix is one sign of the secret orders of the ancient world and of the initiate of those orders, for it was common to refer to one who had been accepted into the temples as a man twice-born, or re-born. Wisdom confers a new life, and those who become wise are born again.”

Hall went on in The Secret Destiny of America:
The Phoenix symbol is important in another way, as an emblem among nearly all civilized nations of royalty, power, superiority, and immortality. The Phoenix of China is identical in meaning with the Phoenix of Egypt; and the Phoenix of the Greeks is the same as the Thunder Bird of the American Indians…

It is immediately evident that the bird on the original seal is not an eagle… but the Phoenix…. The beak is of a different shape, the neck is much longer, and the small tuft of hair at the back of the head leaves no doubt as to the artist’s intention. [1]
Hall then acknowledged that if the design “on the obverse side of the seal is stamped with the signature” of the Masons, the design on the reverse was even more related to the Order’s “mysteries,”casting the United States within the society’s secret scheme to fulfill the Baconian dream of a New Atlantis by establishing America as the capital of the New World Order.

Hall continues:
Here is represented the great pyramid of Gizah, composed of 13 rows of masonry, showing 72 stones. The pyramid is without a cap stone, and above its upper platform floats a triangle containing the All-Seeing Eye surrounded by rays of light…

The Pyramid of Gizah was believed by the ancient Egyptians to be the shrine tomb of the god Hermes, or Thot, the personification of Universal Wisdom.

No trace has ever been found of the cap of the great pyramid. A flat platform about thirty feet square gives no indication that this part of the structure was ever otherwise finished; and this is appropriate, as the Pyramid represents human society itself, imperfect and incomplete. The structure’s ascending converging angles and faces represent the common aspiration of humankind; above floats the symbol of the esoteric orders, the radiant triangle with its all-seeing eye…

There is a legend that in the lost Atlantis stood a great university in which originated most of the arts and sciences of the present race. The University was in the form of an immense pyramid with many galleries and corridors, and on the top was an observatory for the study of the stars. This temple to the sciences in the old Atlantis is shadowed forth in the seal of the new Atlantis. Was it the society of the unknown philosophers who scaled the new nation with the eternal emblems, that all the nations might know the purpose for which the new country had been founded?

…The combination of the Phoenix, the pyramid, and the all-seeing eye is more than chance or coincidence. There is nothing about the early struggles of the colonists to suggest such a selection to farmers, shopkeepers, and country gentlemen. There is only one possible origin for these symbols, and that is the secret societies which came to this country 150 years before the Revolutionary War. Most of the patriots who achieved American independence belonged to these societies, and derived their inspiration, courage, and high purpose from the ancient teaching. There can be no question that the great seal was directly inspired by these orders of the human Quest, and that it set forth the purpose for this nation as that purpose was seen and known to the Founding Fathers.

The monogram of the new Atlantis reveals this continent as set apart for the accomplishment of the great work—here is to arise the pyramid of human aspiration, the school of the secret sciences. [2]
Besides Manly Hall, late scholars that recognized the occult symbolism of the Great Seal as pointing to this ‘secret destiny of America’ included Rhodes Scholar James H. Billington and Harvard Professor Charles Eliot Norton, who described the Great Seal as hardly other than an “emblem of a Masonic Fraternity.” In 1846, 33rd Degree Freemason and noted author James D. Carter inadvertently confirmed this as well when he admitted the Masonic symbolism is clearly known whenever “an informed Mason examines the Great Seal.”

But for all the volumes that were written in the early years about the arcane meaning behind the obvious symbols on the Great Seal of the United States, it was not until the 1930s that, perhaps by providence, the significance of the Great Seal started finding its defining moment.

It happened when occult minded 32nd Degree Mason, Henry Wallace, the Secretary of Agriculture for the United States in 1934 became intrigued with the meaning behind the Great Seal. Wallace had been a disciple of Agni Yoga Society founder and theosophist, Nicholas Roerich, whose devotion to mysticism was increasingly focused on apocalyptic themes surrounding the coming of a new earthly order. This came to light publicly when Wallace ran as Vice President in the 1940 presidential election and was threatened with embarrassment by the Republicans, who had come into possession of a series of letters written by Wallace in the 1930s. The letters were addressed to Roerich as “Dear Guru” and described the anticipation Wallace felt for “the breaking of the New Day,” a time when a mythical kingdom would arrive on earth accompanied by a special breed of people. The Democrats barely kept the letters from the public by making threats of their own, and Wallace went on to become 33rd Vice President of the United States under the 32nd President, Franklin D. Roosevelt, himself a 32nd Degree Mason with an equal thirst for mysticism.

Stay tuned…

1. Manly Palmer Hall, The Secret Destiny of America, chapter 18, Philosophical Research Society, 3341 Griffith Park Boulevard, Los Angeles 27, California, 1944



  1. Very timely information...hoping the body of Christ would wake up to the fact. I think this is an error:

    '13 arrows in the phrase ‘E Pluribus Unum’

    Shouldn't it be letters, not arrows?

    Looking forward to part 13.

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  2. ***SPOILER ALERT***

    In case everyone wonders how all of this ends, here it is: “But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur.” (Revelation 19:20)

    Well, well, well…so much for the “Great Work”! The “fruit” of all of the occult’s work cast aside like so much garbage.

    Just think, these folks have spent generations working towards bring about the Antichrist’s “New World Order”. They’ve spent their days, their money and their “sacred honor” all to fulfill prophetic scripture that they don’t even believe in. Yes, no matter how much they think they can change to future, they cannot. They’ve already lost. They’ve already failed.

    Thank you Mr. Horn for having the courage to write about the things that have been hidden in plain view for so long. What you are doing is dangerous and it is obvious that the “powers that be” do not want this information out in the open. After all, how can they retain their superiority if the “profane” are allowed to know of their “great work”. You see, special knowledge isn’t “special” if everyone knows it.

    Your explanation of the symbolism found in the Great Seal helps to explain why so many of the world’s largest corporations use occult symbols for their logos. It appears that Masons at all levels seek to invoke unseen powers to help them towards prosperity. Of course, Jesus said, “What good is it for a man to gain the whole world, yet forfeit his soul?” (Mark 8:36)

    Maranatha, amen!

  3. The ficticious attacks on Mr. Horn's credibility makes me want to order the new book and read his other materials even more. In fact, I'm going to forward this blog to everybody I know. And hopefully they'll forward it to everybody they know, and so forth.

  4. Note from site controller Donna Anderson for Tom Horn. I removed the posts that contained profanity and will block these contributors if this continues. Also, posts that have no substance other than to name-call will be removed. Feel free to disagree with Mr. Horn if you like, but keep it clean.

  5. Hi
    Thanks, Tom, for all this information! I have printed each article and placed in a binder even though I am signed up for the book. We simply cannot exist anymore without knowing what is going on.....and understanding what we know.
    I also enjoyed the 5 disc set As It Was In The Days of Noah, esp disc four...
    I appreciate your hard work and enjoy being one of the beneficiaries of it.
    Sincerely, Olivia

  6. After reading this, especially the reference to the Bald Eagle as a "Phoenix-Eagle" (ostensibly so the author can label every last icon as being of the occult) I have come to the conclusion that Mr. Horn is woefully misled at best.

    That some of our founding fathers were masons is a fact, but to suggest that America was founded in order to enact some diabolical scheme is almost laughable.

    Mr. Horns writings are interesting, but part of me believes that his ideas are perfect examples of paranoia more than they are examples of good journalism.

  7. I would have considered it "laughable" as you say even as recently as last year. Unfortunately, it won't seem laughable if (when?) what he is sharing is proven true.

  8. Two years ago I would have said this was all parnoid rantings as well but I have seen things first hand that verify to me personally something is up. As a child and into my adult years, I have seen the "craft" at various time of the fallen angels Mr. Horn refers to. This started at age 14 into my early 30s. Every time I saw these I was with another person so they can be verified. One sigting in Northern Arizona a beam came out of one of them as one of the craf went behind the hill we were camped near. My friend and I mysteriously woke up around our camp fire early hours of the morning not ever remembering falling asleep.

    About two and half years ago I decided to finally decided to research what this was. After a long research and almost mental break as well as heart break finding out that this is indeed statanic manifestations and our Govt. being completely involved, I rededicated my life to Jesus Christ for the pending Spiritual battle that is at hand in the near future. I wrote a study documenting references in the Bible and anceient Biblical text showing that these were fallen angels to share with my Brothers and Sisters. The night i finished it I was attacked in my sleep by a demonic entity. I was awaken with my body totally constricting and getting tighter and tighter. As my body constricted a dark shadowy figure appeared on my ceiling. As it constricted my body more and more wings of a dragon began to grow larger and larger out of this shadow like figure. I had barely enough strength to cry out "Jesus Save me" and as soon as I got those words out, another white whispy figure appreared with what looked like the wings of a dove flapping furiously and going frantic all over the dark shadowy figure with the dragon wings. As soon as that happned my body was released from the constricting and the vision faded. My body was so physically soar for days from the event.

    I am convinced that something did not want me to share these things nor rededicate my life back to Jesus Christ. I am also convinced we are on the eve of a gigantic Spiritual battle. There is no chance of survival without Jesus Christ leading the way in your life. Take a look at everything happening now and the more and more restrictive laws and all the pagan icons all over Wahsington DC. Something is about to happen . . .

  9. From the site manager Donna again ;-)

    Your comment is so interesting because Tom started this blog series by admitting that he too was "awakened" to these realities, that "conspiracy" thinkers were in some way right all along. If you have followed Tom's work like I have for several decades, he has NEVER written about freemasonry or this type conspiracy stuff before. He was literally "woke" up at 2:AM in the morning with a life changing thought, that he then discussed with several authorities he names in his upcoming book, which set in motion a multi-state series of interviews. As I understand it, this is also being made into a documentary film plus I know the History Channel has already contacted him to ask if he would do a special show with them on it late this year. In any case, recall how Tom started this series, saying, "I had been wrestling with certain images and enigmatic information for years, trying to make sense of what I had found. But not until recently had something deeper troubled me. It was as if an ominous voice somewhere was ready to show me what I was finally able to receive.

    Of course I was very familiar with transcendent subject matter. I had been involved with religious institutions for more than 30 years in official capacities including as an executive in the largest evangelical organization in the world. During that same time I had appeared on international television and radio programs with opportunity to expand my presence to a regular audience, if desired.

    Yet it was not until a brief stint working with exorcisms that I had come face to face with authentic supernaturalism and had finally begun questioning the differences between indoctrination and revelation, knowledge and wisdom, religion and relationship, good and evil. It was here at last that my arrogant disposition, which had served my significant ego like a triumphant battle horse for decades, fell weak. The sword of a superb memory that had allowed me to chop down others with proof texts and so-called writs of fact had at once become as empty as the tomb of Jesus Christ.

    I wouldn’t know until later how necessary that rebirth and change of heart and mind had been. Some of the very people I had mocked as conspiratorial had turned out to be closer to understanding these enigmatic truths than I ever had. Naivete and blind acceptance, especially of specific controlled versions of American history had kept me in the dark, blinded from the actual course that a frightening network of hidden powers had set our nation upon years before."

  10. Anonymous, my dear soul, exactly how do you think the end game is going to play out? Nice and clean with nary a christian injured in the fight, or as Jesus stated, even the elect would be deceived if that were possible. The endtime game is on and we christians must be wise as the enemy, harmless as doves. My friend, we now have a little breathing room to gain knowledge of the enemy's plans. We would be wise to take full advantage while we are still able to do so. We may be informing our sleepy, stunned brothers and sisters on the run from the lawless ones and there leaders. Shalom

  11. Tom, you deserve a MIGHTY & SINCERE "THANK YOU"! You ALSO need to research the significance of Matt.16:19, & the "giving of the KEYS OF THE KINGDOM" to humankind. "KEYS" are mentioned 7 times inScripture: Isa.22:22; Matt.16:19; Lk.11:52; Rev.1:18; 3:7,9:1-2; and 20:1 Each description deals with either an "Authority", or a "power" of God, given to those who BELIEVEin the Lord Jesus christ.

    #1]"The Key of the House of David",
    #2]"The Key of David"
    #3]"The Key of Knowledge"
    #4]"The Key of Hell"
    #5]"The key of death"
    #6]"The key of the bottomless pit"
    #7]"The keys of the Kingdom"

    Aside from "Authority", (Key of the House of David); there are three other described "Powers": "Knowledge"; "power to bind & loose, in heaven & on Earth", & "Power to open & close" ANYthing in heaven & on Earth.

    The sole reason I mention these "KEYS" is that the above Revelation of the "PLAN" to create a Nation of Commerce control, bodes an ill wind approaches, and we will NEED these SUPERNATURAL POWERS, and NEED to be accustomed to utilizing them in the days ahead.

    To "CLOSE & BIND" the Portals, and powers of the "princes of the principalities of the darkness of this World" ; as well as the "KNOWLEDGE" of the Kingdom of God, and how to "go in ourselves, and allow others to do the same"!

    BE AWARE! BEWARE! ASK & ye SHALL recieve!SEEK & ye SHALL find! knock, & it SHALL be opened!

    "Blessed is that servant, whom his Lord, when He cometh, shall find so doing"...THAT is a promise that you Tom can SURELY & DESERVEDLY CLAIM! I'd really appreciate hearing back from you on this matter of the "KEYS"...God Bless & thank you so VERY MUCH for ALL that you're doing!

  12. "From the site manager Donna again ;-)

    Your comment is so interesting because Tom started this blog series by admitting that he too was "awakened".....

    These are individual experiences which you must be aware will be considered by many as perhaps psychotic episodes that cannot be proved nor disproved. To ask that others believe in them because you experienced them is dangerous. I don't know you but you may be mentally ill for all I know. Therefore, why should I trust you or Tom Horn and why should anyone put their faith in You? You are not God.

    What I am saying is this: follow no man to guide you with regards to spiritual matters for it is like the blind leading the blind. Put your faith in what your own heart leads you to understand as truth, not on what someone else THINKS is the truth. Follow no one. If you don't do this you will be misled and the temple of which you think is holy because someone else is convinced it is, is not.

    These perhaps are interesting 'stories' and nothing more. Don't put too much weight on them nor attempt to convince others that your way is the truth, the light, nor the way to eternal life because you 'think' you've solved a 'puzzle'. Emphasizing these things, these 'signs' and not emphasizing the power of love, the holiness of it, is just one other path to perdition.

  13. I would encourage all christians to strengthen themselves for what is to come. We have great authority in the name of JESUS. Greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world! You are going to need all your weapons of spiritual warfare in the battle to come.
    Sadly many christians have no idea what I am talking about when I talk about casting out demons, laying hands on the sick or speaking in tongues. Some have even been taught that none of these are needed any more but they are needed more now than ever. Remember the word says "my people perish for lack of knowledge"

  14. i have learned a lot online by reading and listening to people like tom horn, dan flynn, chuck missler etc, and the hard way by corruption in govmnt and law, i experienced it and wondered why nothing works that took me on this road. i have seen ufo's but never believed theyre from space, i seen the reference to alien type beings in the book of enoch , this made me search more, i even have had weird dreams , and heard biblical verses being quoted during my dreams in the background, another thing that happened i need to find out about that would make people think i was crazy, since my body has felt different not by imagination but physically, i tried writing in some prophesy sites to enquire but nobody ever replied to my request.

  15. I am sorry, but I read this post again and I just laugh. This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Horn might as well come right out and call himself a 9/11 Truther.

    I use to really respect Tom Horn, but with each passing "chapter" I am losing interest.

  16. PS: I would also like to add the following -

    Horn is convinced that there is this Machiavellian force behind the United States that is in control of the peculiar purpose of this great nation, that somehow our government is satanic and is behind it all. I know this sounds sexy, but when you consider that the people of the great state of Minnesota elected a clown like Al Franken to the Senate, I am more convinced than ever before that our government could not pass a urine test, let alone enact a sophisticated and diabolical plan such as one world government. Our "leaders" are a bunch of inept screw-ups who could not manage to screw in a light bulb if their lives depended on it. Especially since they cannot even find one, let alone screw on in, because they were stupid enough to ban the incandescent light bulb!

    Does anyone REALLY think that the US Government, and the people who run it, are clever enough to pull off something as complex as one world government?

  17. Mr. Horn's head is bald. Perhaps there is an occult meaning to that also.

    Or, maybe he wears his tinfoil hat too tightly and it is making him imagine things.

  18. I think the writer who jests at Mr. Horn's bald head and the ineptness of our government misses one very important point. While our "leaders" may indeed be inept "screw ups," who could not change a simple light bulb, most assuredly, the forces behind them are not.

  19. And so the enemy continues to have a ball pitting human beings against one another. Principalities and powers overshadowing the minds of people until they can't think straight(think of a lynch mob mentality).

    Each one believes they're right while thinking of the others as idiots. All the while in the background, unseen forces are advancing their agenda against the human race.

    "For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places."---Eph 6:12

    For those who do not believe or grasp what this scripture is saying to us, it simply says that people are not the enemy. They are merely puppets under the control of sinister forces.

    What can we do with the information Mr. Horn and others are giving to us? Wake up to what's going on around us. Pray for your families, your nation, the Church, and for yourselves. It is in prayer that we are victorious and it is in bickering amongst each other and lack of prayer that we are consumed.

  20. I dont know if he was referring to my post where i mentioned tom horn and the remark was directed at myself, but its ok its no biggie. I can only go by my own personal experience, a sequence of events that happened, concentricity and myself stumbling along a road to this part of my life. where my eyes got opened to many parts of reality that would never have been noticed by me otherwise. I've seen that online theres these sites that talk about ufo disclosure, 2012 new age, people evolving, new realitys and theyre all in my opinion misleading and dangerous, wether by design or just plain naivety. Something happened about 18 month ago and shortly after this event my body has got really hot, this heat seems to come from inside outwards between my solar plexus and throat and from the outside it feels like the blast of heat you get when you open the oven door. this heat flows through my whole body. basicly i need somebody that can maybe explain something about the event that set this in motion, even explaining this would make a person sound crazy

  21. Bald is beautiful. It is not what is on top of Tom Horn's head that concerns me. It is what's inside of it that most preoccupies my mind and worries me. If he is proven to be right, that as a Christian I am delighted for our redemption indeed draweth nigh. However, something tells me that all of this is a bunch of hooey.

  22. The masses remain in the dark, cozy in their matrix of illusion. When a man like Horn comes along, obviously unconcerned with "popularity," and warns of what is to come, his blog gets infiltrated--as he said it would--with subtle voices trying to malighn the character and intentions of a man they don't even know. Keep up the great work, Dr. Horn

  23. Hey, i heard tom horn on the Q-Files last night with steve quayle for 2 hours. It was the best show I have ever heard. Reallu. The only down side was that tom was really going somewhere when the show went off in mid-sentence. I believe they will be putting the mp3s for the show on sometime today

  24. When names like Steve Quayle and David Flynn begin to pop up along side Tom Horn...I know it won't be long before we start seeing other names like Art Bell, Hoagland Steve Kulls, Tom Biscardi and Jess Rense pop up as well. They all belong on an Island somewhere where they can compare conspiracy theories and devise new ways to sell books.

    The fact that Horn showed up on the Quayle show just confirms what I have been suspecting for a few weeks.

  25. Indeed, our gov't is so inept that they are about to pass legislature that will permanently enslave us in the forms of a climate change bill, "big taxes on utilities" and healthcare reform,"huge taxes on the working class". Not to mention the "codex alimentarus", which has the capacity for government to compltely control our food supply. How inept of them to have accomplished so little in such a short time!?! I really don't see this administration as a bunch of screw-ups. Rather, very calculating, with a sinister plan to set things up for a one world Government. We all know where that will lead us, don't we?

  26. Anoymous said "When names like Steve Quayle and David Flynn begin to pop up along side Tom Horn..."

    Careful, Blue Degree, you are letting your "tells" out.

  27. Thank you for sharing this information. It’s really interesting.

    Mr. Horn, I am curious about why you think Masons are so motivated to do the things they have done and are now doing. I know it’s difficult to pinpoint human motivation but there has to be a reason even if it’s just simple blind greed.

    The top degree Masons appear to be working to bring about a one-world government complete with a dictatorial leader. Why can’t they see that they are preparing the way for the Antichrist and his 7-year reign? Don’t they see the connection or are they just too willfully ignorant?

    Obviously, they don’t think they are in any danger. They think they are getting something out of their worship of Lucifer. What are they being promised? Who is promising it?

    By the way, if there are any Masons reading this I’d sure appreciate your honest answer. Why are you rejecting eternal life through faith in Jesus Christ. What does “The Great Architect”, Lucifer, have to offer that’s better? And, why would you believe him?

    Can you show us anything to back up your “faith”? We Christians have hundreds of fulfilled prophecies as part our evidence—what is yours? Albert Pikes’ “prophetic” dreams of three world wars? Helen Blavatsky’s books? P. Manly’s books? Really, Is that it? Really? Your rejecting eternal life based on this? If you will, please explain yourselves. Thanks.

  28. Why are some people motivated to do the things they have done and are now doing? Because power corrupts most human beings. Only those who understand that their lives are not their own but belong to the One who created them, can handle power. For the rest there's never enough money and control over other people to satisfy them. It's like a drug addict.

    On another note: those who have nothing intelligent to say, in person or on the internet, will always attack the character, skin color, sexual gender, or looks of the one they don't agree with. King Solomon said it best, "There's nothing new under the sun."

  29. Geez
    All this from CHristians based upon a coded book written to uplift the early church during the persecutions under Nero (whose name in Hebrew spells out 666).

    For all the christians who think this country was established as a christian country, this is more the truth that you will ever know. Your church has turned off many with your leaders like Bush, Tom DeLay who professed loyalty to Christ while making millions for themselves, corrupting themselves in power and bankrupted this country with Friedman Chicago economics.

    I think it is the Christian church that is asleep. Jesus lived a way of life that was absent of religion, ego, and self-will, based on love of oneself and each other and God. I doubt that He would appreciate what right wingers and conservatives have done to his message.

    You are all into your egos and perservation of your favortie man made doctrine. You don't know your own history or that of this country. Study the early church and tell me if the American church is anywhere near where they were.

    The closer you come to Christ, the further away you get from religion and doctrine. It all dies when you awake to the oneness of God and his love for all of us and his creation and our interconnection with each other.

    Your views make you no better than fundamentalists of any stripe. Your way is the only way, but you don't even know the way of Christ because you are blinded by doctrine and dogma.

    You are so into these last days, many of you believe you will be raptures and you look forward to a spiritual conflict, yet you fail to see that Christ won the war. The devil has no power unless you give it to him, and boy are you guys giving it to him. By acknowledging he has any power over you at all, allows him to live in your illusions, and never see the victory you have in Christ.

    It's time to grow up church. We can't be teenagers forever, fighting our little wars forever amongst ourselves and others. Christ did not die for this, he died for love.

    And I don't see much of the church doing much loving these days. Must be our calvanist roots in this country that makes the American Church so legalistic. And Calvin was nothing more than a spiritual dictator who lost all sight of the essence of CHrist's message.

    That's it, it's that simple, Stop being in fear, stop trying to convince anybody of anything and live His love to all. Love is the answer, not politics, not man made doctrine or dogma.

    Be Christ to others and see the country and world change. As St. Francis said "every day I preach the gospel and sometimes I use words."

    It would be great if more CHristians understood what that means.

  30. Some conspiracy theorists believe the eye atop the pyramid to have its origins in Masonic iconography;[39] however, this cannot be established. While the Eye of Providence is currently a common Masonic motif, this was not the case at the time that the Great Seal was designed. At that time, it seems to have been used only sporadically by the Masons, and was not adopted as a common Masonic symbol until 1797, several years after the Great Seal of the United States had already been designed.[40] The Eye of Providence was, on the other hand, a fairly common Christian motif throughout the Middle Ages and Renaissance, and was commonly used in Europe as well as America throughout the 18th century.[41][42]

    Furthermore, contrary to many conspiracy theory claims, the Great Seal was not created by Freemasons. While Benjamin Franklin was a Mason, he was the only member of any of the various Great Seal committees definitively known to be so, and his ideas were not adopted.[43] Of the four men whose ideas were adopted, neither Charles Thomson, Pierre Du Simitière nor William Barton were Masons and, while Francis Hopkinson has been alleged to have had Masonic connections, there is no firm evidence to support the claim.[44][45]

  31. As I understand it, what you have written is only partly true and the underlying premise about the eye of providence not being a masonic symbol is thoroughly debunked in Tom's upcoming book, as is the idea that the seal was not designed by Masons and masonic influence. As I understand it, this will be proven from the mouths of Freemasonry's greatest writers as well as presidents etc. We'll see.

  32. Well, please understand that freemasons would love to take credit for everything if it were in their power to do so, and if freemasons are as satanic as we are told then why should we believe anything they have to say?

    For those of you that think our founding fathers were a bunch of occult satanists bent on world domination, I truly think you need to set the koolaid down and push away from the table.

  33. “Well, please understand that freemasons would love to take credit for everything if it were in their power to do so, and if freemasons are as satanic as we are told then why should we believe anything they have to say?”

    I think it’s important to point out the fact that Mr. Horn has not said that ALL Freemasons are followers of Satan. Pay attention! He keeps referencing the degree level of those involved as 32nd Degree and 33rd Degree. These are the TOP degree Masons.

    I’m sure that most lower degree Masons simply see Freemasonry as a great social networking opportunity. They attend meetings to mingle and rub elbows with others with whom they hope to do business. They are entirely clueless to the lawless practices of the Freemasonry leadership. This is why even the lower level Masons are considered to be among the “profane”.

    You see, most Masons will never have “official access” to the knowledge of the top degree Masons who pay large sums of money to obtain these degrees. Apparently, they pay to find out that the “Grand Architect” is Lucifer and other so called “secrets”, which Mr. Horn is exposing here.

    You are correct in asking why we should believe them. The answer is that we SHOULD NEVER place our faith in Freemasonry’s “Grand Architect” or their “New Age Christ” also known as “Maitreya”. Mr. Horn has never said that what these people believe is true. He is simply exposing what they have chosen to hide. True to his name, he is “blasting” a loud and clear warning message to all who will hear.

    By the way, it’s not too late for these top Masons to change their minds. There is still time for them to embrace Jesus as their Lord and Savior. They can resist the Devil and he will flee. Even Judas had a free will choice to NOT betray Jesus. He made a foolish decision to conspire with Satan and then paid the ultimate price for his poor choice.

    Of course, after anyone takes the Mark of the Beast (Apollyon) it is too late. They will stand before Jesus at the Great White Throne Judgment and hear Him say, “'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.” (Matthew 7:23)

    Can you imagine that? The real all knowing all seeing Creator of all things telling you that He doesn’t even acknowledge your existence. So much for great social networking opportunities.

  34. Howard says...

    For those who would "poo-pooh" on the DOCTRINE of the LIVING GOD.

    You smoked your breakfast...

  35. wow!Wow!!WOW!!! We have TRUTH and LIES...some let all the truth out some only let enough to make their theory seem truthful.
    ALL of paganism is perverted TRUTH!
    I am reading volume one of "Biblical History of the Americas Series" by S.A. Cranfil called "They Come From Babel" and it coincides with the info that Tom reveals.
    The truth is out there and it's amazing even with the synchronicity of present events that there are those who protest.

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