Saturday, November 7, 2009

PART THIRTY: Read It Before It Is [Further] Banned By The US Government

This information is based on research contained in Tom Horn's new book:

APOLLYON RISING 2012
The Lost Symbol Found And The Final Mystery Of The Great Seal Revealed
A Terrifying And Prophetic Cipher, Hidden From The World By The U.S. Government For Over 200 Years Is Here


Yesterday the first feature article on my new book Apollyon Rising 2012 appeared at Raiders News Network (see RESEARCHER REVEALS DEEPEST SECRETS OF MAYAN YEAR 2012) and hinted strongly at some of the disclosure I make. The story created a firestorm at Survivor Mall (which has the early release copies that went on sale this week) with so many orders coming in and increasing in velocity overnight it nearly crashed the system. The book hit #1 at some retailers in the last 24 hours. I can’t say how humbling this is and how much I appreciate everybody helping me get the word out. This message is the most important of my lifetime and my secretary tells me that I am booked already on over 120 television and radio shows starting this week. As a result, entries to this series will be spotty for a while, but I will be back with a NEW series of articles sometime around the first of the year... because I believe we may be headed toward…

Great Deception 2012 and the Final Conclave

While a magnificent amount of material has been published in recent years involving the Mayan date 2012, until this book, the world at large has been unaware of the connection between this year and the Great Seal regarding the arrival of Apollo/Osiris/Nimrod and the final World Order.

This includes the prophecies of the Cumaean Sibyl—whose prophecy concerning the return of Apollo is encoded on the Masonically designed Great Seal of the United States—who was (and is) so highly regarded as a true prophetess among the occult hierarchy as well as holding occasions of sacred esteem in the Vatican’s holy places, including the Sistine Chapel. It therefore bears repeating here the concerns of several church fathers concerning end-times great deception, and what they said about Masonic involvement in the religious institution ultimately paving the way for the coming of the False Prophet and Antichrist.

To start with, among scholars of the implications of the year 2012, more than a few have pointed to the contemporaneous prophecy of St. Malachy having to do with “the last Pope.” The prophecy, taken from St. Malachy’s “Prophecy of the Popes,” is among a list of verses predicting each of the Roman Catholic popes from Pope Celestine II to the final pope, “Peter the Roman,” whose reign would end in the destruction of Rome. First published in 1595, the prophecies were attributed to St. Malachy by a Benedictine historian named Arnold de Wyon, who recorded them in his book, Lignum Vitæ. Tradition holds that Malachy had been called to Rome by Pope Innocent II, and while he was there, he experienced the vision of the future popes, including the last one, which he wrote down in a series of cryptic phrases. According to the prophecy, the next pope (following Benedict XVI) is to be the final pontiff, Petrus Romanus or Peter the Roman.
The prophecy:

In persecutione extrema S. R. E. sedebit Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oues in multis tribulationibus: quibus transactis ciuitas septicollis diruetur, et Iudex tremendus iudicabit populum. Finis.

Interpretation:

In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations; when they are over, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the terrible or fearsome Judge will judge his people. The End.
Some believers in this prophecy say the title Petrus Romanus (Peter the Roman) is symbolic of the pontificate, and that the final pope could have a Christian name variation that satisfies this meaning. On this order, the man who in 2002 correctly predicted that the pope succeeding John Paul II would be named Benedict XVI, Ronald L. Conte Jr., believes the next pope will take the name Pius XIII, and that “Peter the Roman” means this pope “will reaffirm the authority of the Roman Pontiff over the Church; this authority is based on his place as a Successor of Peter” and “will emphasize the supremacy of the Roman Catholic Faith and the Roman Catholic Church above all other religions and denominations, and its authority over all Christians and all peoples of the world.” To this, Conte adds, “During the reign of Pope Peter the Roman, the great apostasy begins” and this pope will mark “the first part of the tribulation, during our generation.”

The idea by some Catholics that the final pope on St. Malachy’s list heralds the beginning of “great apostasy” followed by “great tribulation”—and that this is either the current pope or the next one (some debate exists on this)—sets the stage for the imminent unfolding of apocalyptic events, something many non-Catholics would agree with. This could give rise to a false prophet, who according to the book of Revelation leads the world’s religious communities into embracing a political leader known as the Antichrist. This marriage of church and secular government would give unprecedented global influence to the Man of Sin during the period known as the Great Tribulation.

In recent history, several Catholic priests—some deceased now—have been surprisingly outspoken on what they have seen as the inevitable danger of the False Prophet rising from within the ranks of Catholicism as a result of secret satanic “Illuminati-Masonic” influences. These priests—as we have done in this series—used the term “Illuminati” not strictly as a reference to the Bavarian movement founded May 1, 1776, by Jesuit-taught Adam Weishaupt, but as indicative of a modern multinational power elite, the occult hierarchy operating behind current supranatural and global political machinations. According to Catholic priests such as Father John F. O’Connor, Father Alfred Kunz, Father Malachi Martin, and others, among this secret society are sinister false Catholic infiltrators who understand that, as the Roman Catholic Church represents one-sixth of the world’s population and over half of all Christians, it is indispensable for controlling future global elements in matters of church and state.

In a two-hour presentation (available on DVD), Father O’Connor gave a homily titled “The Reign of the Antichrist,” in which he described how changes within society and in the institution were already at work before his death to provide for the coming of Antichrist. In this sermon and elsewhere, O’Connor outlined the catalyst for this scheme unfolding as a result of “Masonic Conspirators” within the organization whose plan, called “Alta Vendetta,” would essentially take control of the papacy and help the False Prophet deceive the world’s faithful (including Catholics) into worshipping Antichrist.

O’Connor was not alone as whistleblower to the vast Masonic conspiracy within the Vatican’s ranks covertly working toward an anti-Christian New World Order. Retired professor of the Pontifical Biblical Institute, eminent Catholic theologian and former Jesuit priest, Malachi Martin was a close personal friend of Pope Paul VI and worked within the Holy See doing research on the Dead Sea Scrolls, publishing articles in journals on Semitic paleography, and teaching Aramaic, Hebrew, and Sacred Scripture. In 1965, Paul VI granted Martin a dispensation from his Jesuit and priestly duties, and Martin moved to New York, where he dedicated himself to writing about—and sometimes speaking out on—a variety of issues stemming from the Second Vatican Council, to detailed insider accounts of papal history, Catholic dogma, and geopolitics. As a member of the Vatican Advisory Council and personal secretary to renowned Jesuit Cardinal Augustin Bea, Martin had privileged information pertaining to secretive church and world issues, including the Third Secret of Fatima, which Martin hinted spelled out parts of the plan to formerly install the dreaded False Prophet during a “Final Conclave.” On this, Martin’s claim that an Illuminati-Masonic group made up of Western plutocrats called “The Assembly” or the “Superforce” had infiltrated the highest levels of Vatican administration and were working to bring about a New World Order, may have led to involvement by operatives of the same group concerning his untimely, some say “suspicious” death in 1999.

Ten years earlier, before “something pushed him” and Malachi Martin fell and later died, he had become increasingly candid about what he said was pedophilic Satanism among certain cardinals and other clergy in league with a secret Masonic diabolicus that began following the “enthronement of the fallen Archangel Lucifer” in the Roman Catholic Citadel on June 29, 1963.

In The Keys of This Blood, Martin wrote:
Most frighteningly for John Paul, he had come up against the irremovable presence of a malign strength in his own Vatican and in certain bishops’ chanceries. It was what knowledgeable Churchmen called the “superforce.” Rumors, always difficult to verify, tied its installation to the beginning of Pope Paul VI’s reign in 1963. Indeed Paul had alluded somberly to “the smoke of Satan which has entered the Sanctuary”…an oblique reference to an enthronement ceremony by Satanists in the Vatican.
Martin had concealed greater detail of this luciferic “enthronement ceremony by Satanists in the Vatican” in his novel, Windswept House:
The Enthronement of the Fallen Archangel Lucifer was effected within the Roman Catholic Citadel on June 29, 1963; a fitting date for the historic promise about to be fulfilled. As the principal agents of this Ceremonial well knew, Satanist tradition had long predicted that the Time of the Prince would be ushered in at the moment when a Pope would take the name of the Apostle Paul [Pope Paul VI]. That requirement—the signal that the Availing Time had begun—had been accomplished just eight days before with the election of the latest Peter-in-the-Line.
Martin stated publicly on more than one occasion that the enthronement of Lucifer in Rome was based on fact, and that to facilitate the black magic, a parallel ceremony was conducted simultaneously in the United States in Charleston, South Carolina. The reason this location was selected has remained obscure to many, but given what Malachi said about the Masonic connection, it makes sense that South Carolina was chosen: It is the site of the first Supreme Council of the Scottish Rite Freemasonry in the United States, called “the Mother Lodge of the World,” where in 1859, champion of luciferian dogma for the Masonic-Illuminatus, Albert Pike became Grand Commander of the Supreme Council, where he served the Order of the Quest until his death in Washington DC on April 2, 1892.

In addition, Charleston, at the thirty-third parallel, was perfect for such an event, according to the logic of former Sirhan Sirhan attorney, Day Williams, because, “If a life is taken close to the…33rd Parallel, this fits with the Masons’ demonic mythology in which they demonstrate their worldly power by spilling human blood at a predetermined locale.”

Martin provided additional reasoning for the South Carolina location:
Such unobtrusive elements as the Pentagram and the black candles and the appropriate draperies could be part of the Ceremonial in Rome. But other Ruberics—the Bowl of Bones and the Ritual Din, for example, the sacrificial animals and the victim—would be too much. There would have to be a Parallel Enthronement. A Concelebration could be accomplished with the same effect by the Brethren in an Authorized Targeting Chapel. Provided all the participants in both locations “targeted” every element of the Event on the Roman Chapel, then the Event in its fullness would be accomplished specifically in the target area. It would all be a matter of unanimity of hearts, identity of intention and perfect synchronization of words and actions between the Targeting Chapel and the Target Chapel. The living wills and the thinking minds of the Participants concentrated on the specific Aim of the Prince would transcend all distance.
When John F. McManus, for The New American, June 9, 1997, asked Father Martin if the Black Mass in South Carolina had actually happened, it led to an enlightening Q and A:
McManus: Your book begins with a vivid description of a sacrilegious “Black Mass” held in 1963 in Charleston, South Carolina. Did this really happen?

Martin: Yes it did. And the participation by telephone of some high officials of the church in the Vatican is also a fact. The young female who was forced to be a part of this satanic ritual is very much alive and, happily, has been able to marry and lead a normal life. She supplied details about the event.…

McManus: In addition…you depict numerous other cardinals and bishops in a very bad light. Are these characterizations based on fact?

Martin: Yes, among the cardinals and the hierarchy there are satanists, homosexuals, anti-papists, and cooperators in the drive for world rule.
Whether Martin was killed and his death covered up for revealing the Masonic-Illuminati scheme to use the Catholic Church as a launching pad for a luciferic novus ordo seclorum may never be known. One year before he died, however, Martin’s very good friend, Father Alfred Kunz, was brutally murdered in his church in Dane, Wisconsin. Kunz had been investigating the same Satanism among “priests” that Martin had warned about, and had told Martin in the weeks before his murder that he feared for his life.

When Kunz was found with his throat slit, Martin went public that the “luciferians” had killed him because he was getting ready to blow the lid off their conspiracy. Like O’Connor had, Kunz and Martin believed the Catholic Church had been specifically targeted for infiltration by members of this Illuminati-Masonic “Superforce” because of the church’s geopolitical influence in the world. In the Q and A with McManus, Martin even added that part of the reasoning behind this choice was:
The Catholic Church has its own diplomatic corps of ambassadors posted in the highly industrialized nations of the world. There are 180 nations that have sent their own ambassadors to the Vatican. No other church commands this attention. Those who are working for the New World Order must bring this unique organization under their control.
Finally from the interview:
McManus: Your book claims that subversive influences in the highest clerical positions of the Church are working to bring it into the New World Order. What do you mean by “New World Order?”

Martin: In its completely planned form…the governments of the world will be directed by those who have climbed their way into the capstone.

McManus: What do you mean by the “capstone”?

Martin: The underlying force I have written about in Windswept House is structured very much like a pyramid. It is wide at the bottom where many individuals work for its goals and hope to be elevated to a higher place. There are fewer and fewer inhabitants in each of the ascending steps in the structure. Only a very few form its ultimate directorate, the capstone of the pyramid.
Long before popular author Dan Brown (The Da Vinci Code, Angels and Demons, The Lost Symbol) characterized an Illuminati scheme to destroy the Vatican, Malachi Martin had pointed to the familiar pyramid symbolism from the Great Seal of the United States associated with the New World Order and had accurately directed investigators toward the conspirators, as well as to the prophetic references of the novus ordo seclorum as arriving when the capstone would be figuratively filled and fitted atop the unfinished pyramid. Whether Martin perceived the year that the conspirator’s plan would reach its zenith is uncertain, but the occult elite have always had their date, which, as readers of Apollyon Rising 2012 will discover, is cleverly encoded alongside the other details of the complete cipher in the Great Seal of the United States, the US Capitol Dome, and the true "Lost Symbol," which exists on the grandest scale in the heart of the most powerful nation on earth, the United States.

Learn more at www.ApollyonRising2012.com

53 comments:

  1. I've got to say,it blew me away to see Tom Horn describing what I wrote about under the comments for Part 28!

    I have been praying for God to show me His wisdom and things He wants me to know,and to think a man whose work I respect so much brings up the same thing,...all I can say is "Praise the Lord!" and "Maranatha"!

    Sandie

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    1. I am really enjoying reading your well written articles. It looks like you spend a lot of effort and time on your blog. I have bookmarked it and I am looking forward to reading new articles.

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  2. Tom, I don't understand how 13 times the Mayan Katrun of 19.7 comes up with the year 2012 when added to 1776. When I multiply 19.7 by 13 I get 256.1 years. When I add that to 1776, I get the year 2032.1 Am I missing something here?

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  3. Anonymous. You are adding one 19.7 year too many. The year 1776 begins the first katun countdown. Tom is right :-)

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  4. WOW !! Great work ! May the Lord watch over you - and hide you under the shadow of His wings as you travel, telling people about what IS happening -yet- IS to come. May many come to the saving knowledge of Jesus - sadly, too man will scoff.
    God bless and protect you.

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  5. Tom, Amazing material as usual. Will you be posting a schedule of your media appearances? I'd very much like to catch any interviews I can.

    Just a heads up- a countdown of PI years to 12/21/2012 may begin this week on 11/11/09. That's right- 3.14 biblical years...

    Check it out at my blog:

    www.witnesswatch.wordpress.com

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  6. I pray this series comes from a pure heart and not to just sell books. It seems most ministries today are more interested in making money than anything else. I truly hope beyond hope this is directed by the Lord and not just a profit scheme! Only the Lord truly knows and time will tell

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  7. Mr Horn,
    A disturbing article; the most disturbing part being how Catholics are described as representing “ over half of all Christians” and “the faithful”, and that the next Pope will herald the beginning of “great apostasy”.
    The Catholic Church has been in apostasy since its inception. They preach a false gospel of grace PLUS works. This is what the Apostle Paul warned about in Galatians 1:6-9.

    The Catechism of the Catholic Church states:
    #1129 “The sacraments are necessary for salvation.”
    #2010 “We can merit for ourselves the graces needed for the attainment of eternal life.”
    # 2068 “Men can attain salvation through faith, Baptism and the observance of the Commandments.


    If there are true Christians in the Catholic Church they are either,
    a) Ignorant of what the Catholic Church actually teaches, or
    b) Wilfully disobedient concerning separating themselves from those who teach “another gospel”.

    The deception in the Catholic Church is very subtle; but we are not ignorant of the enemies devices. The Catholic Church has always been working towards an anti-Christian New World Order.

    Catholics need to believe the true Gospel of the Grace of God.

    For by grace are ye saved, through faith: and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9

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  8. This is the most disturbing thing, with Mr Horn, though I find what he writes, but to dismiss all the great reformers who called the pope "Anti-Christ" maybe not the figure we all come to call "antichrist" but he is certainly anti-christ, how can anyone say that half of christians filled with the holy ghost and the words of the Holy Scripture stay in a Church (a heaten word meaning Circle by the way) filled with all the abominations that is practising there? If the Pope was truly saved, which of course He cant be, he would put out everything that offends God. Does He?, has his predesessors? I am beginning to doubt you Mr Horn, who are you really??

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  9. I do not think we will necessarily see fallen angels show up in 2012. What is important to me is that some "leaders" think this will happen and are planning accordingly. I think it is necessary to be as far away from such activities as possible, when these plans are executed. Again, I do not think it necessary to be true that the fallen show up in 2012. Plan accordingly that the politicians are thinking it is that way :-)

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  10. Dear Mr Horn, i wrote the last comment and I did give you proper respect, sorry for that. But do you really belive that the Catholic Church was infiltrated as this Mr Marin says??? It may be well so that they will be used for the Global Religion, i do not doubt that. But look at history look at the time of the reformation for example, what kind of Illuminati was infiltrating them back then, or the extinction of the Bible believing Valdenses, my heart breaks just thinking of those humble followers of Christ, this was in 12 century!! so to say that Illuminati has infiltrated the Catholic Church, is like saying a demon has left for another demon take it place, or maybe they are two or a legion!! :)

    Though I like this series, and my own reserach, confirm much of this. But for a book that takes people on the inside of the Qeuro-Incan tradition The holy Ghost led me to. Elizabeth B. Jenkins book Initiation: "A Woman's Spiritual Adventure in the Heart of the Andes" I read it as a believer, but it has some grat insights, and as usually, the Catholic Church is intimtly involved with the Occult!

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  11. As a Catholic, I am well-used to the attacks on my faith and the comments here are little different to the norm. This is not the place to get into apologetics, but I would point out that the Catholic Church is becoming more and more persecuted and reviled in public circles; in part because its unrelenting defence of human life at the most fragile moments (pre-birth and the elderly/ sick), its opposition to homosexual "marriages", is completely at odds with the encroaching liberal philosophy (abortion, euthanasia, civil partnerships) which is the true evil.

    The Catholic-bashers on here would do well to look into Islam and New Age beliefs before trotting out the same old arguments about the church that Jesus Himself founded.

    I do not for one moment disagree with Tom Horn's serious allegation that the Catholic Church has been infiltrated by dark spirits. Pope Paul VI, after all, had warned that the "Smoke of Satan" had entered the church - this is partly why there has been so much dreadful scandal of late (paedophilia) in the church that has rocked us to the very core.

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  12. go watch -Vatican assassins

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  13. Thank you Mr. Horn for helping me understand the role of the Catholic church in the final days. This website agrees with everything you have stated, Maranatha.

    http://www.worldslastchance.com/

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  14. nicely done. read the history of the freemasons. watch hollow moon by trillion as the earth is also hollow. satan said time and again in the bible "i have been going to and fro and through the earth" admiral byrd knew. see pegasus research consortium. you will know why we bombed the moon. the mark of the beast is sunday/first day worship of our creator. the roman catholic church changed the day to keep us from knowing him. seek. with love, one of the remnant of YAHWEY 33 40 9 11 12

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  15. Christian for ChristNovember 9, 2009 at 2:00 PM

    check ut "The Two Babylons" by alexander hislop.... I was a Catholic and I will tell you it is, and always has been so far away from the Gospel of grace that it is not even funny.. also whoever said "Jesus started" the catholic church needs to check his history... Whoever said Paul warned of the Catholic heresy's is right..even down to saying they would not allow priests to marry and tell people to abstain from meats. The Catholic church has even elevated Mary to a level of co-redemer with Christ?? really..where is that in scripture? I don't have enough space to go through all the heresy in the Church (praying to saints, calling priests father, Mary as mother of God, the rosary, the Pope lording over people just as Jesus warned the disciples not to, ect) but I will tell you this the Jesuits are the ones who have formed the "masonic conspiracy" and that is why you see symbols that are encoded in the vatican the same as the one's encoded in the u.s.a.. Its always easier to win a war when you control both sides...you form your own opostion and control the actions of both side. The "Church" of Rome is the continuation of the old Roman ceasar gov.

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  16. Christian, your comment is so full of errors it's hard to know where to start. Maybe you should check your history, because Jesus Christ did indeed found the Catholic Church: "You are Peter and on this rock I will build my church." After Peter, there is an unbroken line of Popes: Linus, Cletus, Clement, etc. etc. No other Church can trace itself back to apostolic origins. You need to seriously consider the import of Jesus' words about Peter as the rock. Jesus Christ is head of the CHurch, and the Pope is his vicar on earth.
    Say what you want, no other church has stood the test of time like the Catholic Church has. It will be around until the end of time.

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  17. Hi!...A Greek lady here....When Jesus said He would build the church he said to peter that Peter was " a little stone" ... But on this rock(himself) he would build the "church" Lady ...you need to study a little Greek to get the full meaning here! The Catholic Church does not encourage real bible study...only repeating what others say...Study to show thyself aproved....a workman that needs not to be ashamed ....rightly dividing the word of truth!

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  18. The Great Apostasy started when the changes that sprang from Vatican Council II in the 1960s destroyed the grace-giving Mass and Sacraments as Catholics (the only true Christians) had known them for nearly 2000 years. This change for the worse explains why society and public morals have deteriorated so much starting in the 1960s.

    Malachi Martin should have been aware of the harmful effects of Vatican Council II because, during the Council, he was an assistant to a Cardinal that played a key role in it. Why continue to publicly be a priest if you can't offer pulic Mass anymore because the "new mass" -- the Novus Ordo mass -- is bogus? And just guess why it's named the Novus Ordo or "New Order" mass.

    The Antichrist was born on June 6 of 1960. Her name is Barbara Warren. She qualifies as the "Man of Sin" and "Son of Perdition" because, as an intersexed person, she has a male member. This explains all the talk in occult circles about the "Sacred Hermaphrodite" and the true significance of the term. He/she is about 4'10" tall and looks like a gnome. In college, they used to call her "gnome girl." She had a terrible reputation and is beyond sociopathic.

    The name of the False Prophet is Charles Versaggi. He looks a lot like an olive-skinned version of Christ: slim build, on the tall side, with curly brown hair and piercing, golden-colored eyes.

    Take note and watch events prove me right.

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  19. I thought you'd want to know-- a man named rabbi glazerson found the word Lilith encoded in the Torah Codes with the Swine-flu plague (see YOutube) ....I listened to a youtube interview of yours today on Bush's speech etc. invoking spirits... Glazerson has a 2012 code too!!... very interesting
    Im so excited about your book! thanks for the hard work!

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  20. To the last post,I just want to add an interesting little "coincidence"...The Brussels Electronic Accounting Surveillance Terminal,(the B.E.A.S.T.),located in Belgium,is also nicknamed "Lilith" by it's users. As you may know,all bar codes are encoded with "666"!
    Sandie

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  21. Just another "coincidence" I thought about earlier,but if 2012 isn't "The End",then maybe it's no big deal,but Revelation 20:12 says,"And I saw the dead,great and small,standing before the throne,and books were opened. Another book was opened,which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books." (Judgement Day!)
    Sandie

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  22. christian for ChristNovember 10, 2009 at 11:03 AM

    "by thier fruits you shall know them" even Catholics that don't read the bible should know this line...so how do you explain the history of violence and blood shed the catholic church has had? and by the way the line that the church perverts reads this...

    15He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

    16And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

    17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

    18And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

    (UPON THE ROCK OF FAITH IN JESUS AS THE CHRIST)
    so where is my statement full of errors? read your bible anonymous and you will find this line about Mary...

    31There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.

    32And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.

    33And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?

    34And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

    35For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

    Jesus paid no special attention to Mary that is not given to any other Christian..and she is definately not the "mother of God" or a co-redemor...more like the goddess of the myster religions...look it up and you will see statues of the so called blessed mother iwth son about 1000 years before Jesus. Catholics are decieved and if you study your bible more than what the church perverts on Sunday's you will see it as I did!

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  23. I am also a Catholic, and agree this is not the place to get into Apologetics, especially since it's been my experience with people like you that you are like the liberals who refuse to listen even when the bold undeniable facts stare you in the face.

    But I will correct the Greek Lady about the "rock". The New Testament was written in Koine Greek and there was no distinction between Petros and Petra. They both meant Rock, and of course the translator would have wanted to give Peter the "masculine" form of the word. Besides that, Jesus wasn't speaking in Greek in the first place. He was speaking in Aramaic, and we know he called Peter "Kepha" due to the transliteration in Greek to Cephas. Kepha means Rock, just like Petra.

    By the way folks, does this sound familiar? "Do you want proof, oh vain man, that faith without works is dead?" The liberal Reformers were looking for every excuse to separate from the one true Catholic Church and create their own stand-alone churches that of course they had to drop some books in the bible, change some verses around, and drop the Sacraments that Jesus Himself instituted, and fabricate this belief that all you need is the Bible, even though the Bible clearly says to hold fast to the writings AND traditions handed down.

    I could go on and on. For every argument someone has against the Catholic Church, there is a sound answer backed by the Bible, if only you are willing to listen. But it's been my experience none of you Catholic bashers want to hear about it. There are plenty of books out there about Catholic Apologetics if you're interested in answers to your misconceptions. It's sad to see supposed Christians attacking the largest and oldest Christian Church, the only universal Church, the one Jesus Himself founded. Satan did a good job of splitting the Church. You have the Catholic Church, then you have 35,000+ other Christian denominations, all contradicting each other, all divided, all with their own infallable preacher teaching their own variation of doctrine to suit whatever comforts their lifestyle (contraception, abortion, divorce, homosexuality, irrevocable easy ticket to heaven by saying a sinners prayer, etc.). Time may be running out fast folks. Are you sure you're in the right place? Is Satan attacking your church, or the Catholic Church? Whose side are you on?

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  24. christian for ChristNovember 10, 2009 at 7:24 PM

    you will know them by their fruits...inquisition? largest land owner in the world? and you still haven't responded to Mary being the co-redeemer? also Jesus said don't pray vain repetitions...rosary? Paul said to be carefull of the people that come in and tell people not to marry and obstain from meats.... He also told the disciples that they should not Lord over people...what does the Pope do? having Kings and queens kiss his toes? one of the golden robes the pope wears could feed all the hungry flocks of mexico...The catholic church is not a christian church..it was created by a certain portion of christians agreeing to join the state of Rome with Constantine....and as to your last question look at who has been attacking who through out history...the Catholic church has consistantly burned, murdered, attack, and tortured REAL christians that hold to the bible....look at your last pope john paul praying with fire worhipers, budhist, saying we all pray to the same god. THe right place is not within a church but is having faith and a relationship with Jesus.....I am sure of my relationship...I have seen his work in my life....and if you have FAITH you will be saved also Catholic or Christian...but it does not change the fact that the hierarchy of the Catholic church has always and will always be about power and not Jesus' work

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  25. http://tinyurl.com/ya5n8w5
    This link should clear up the misconception about the one line where Jesus appears to belittle his mother, which would go against every other reference to Mary in the Bible as well as what the early Church Fathers taught.

    As for the Rock, Jesus said "I say to you that you are Kepha, and on this kepha I will build my Church". Kepha = Peter. Anytime there is a name change in the Bible (Saul to Paul, etc) it is due to a significant conference of duty or authority. It wouldn't make sense for Jesus to point out how the Holy Spirit was working in Peter, to give him the name change to something so solid as Rock/Kepha, to give Peter the keys to the kingdom of heaven, only to insult him and say, "Oh, but I'm the rock the Church will be built on." That wouldn't make sense. Jesus knew he would return to heaven and leave a church on earth entrusted to sinners. He most definitely was referring to Peter as the head of his newly founded church. And knowing that he was entrusting His Church to men, sinners, he promised that they would be guided by the Holy Spirit to all truth and that the gates of hell would not prevail against it. Tell me, which of the tens of thousands of Christian denominates fit the bill of having an unbroken line from Peter, and having never changed any of their teachings (abortion, divorce, contraception, etc.)? The Catholic Church is the ONLY one that has all the marks of the one true Church.

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  26. christian for ChristNovember 10, 2009 at 7:28 PM

    oh and by the way Paul was the apostle to the gentiles not Peter and once again the "ROCK" was the faith in Jesus not Peter...check out when Jesus tells Peter "get behind me satan" is he actually satan or is the line that he says of satan? just as he is not the rock but what he said is the rock

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  27. christian for ChristNovember 10, 2009 at 7:50 PM

    first off you still have not explained Mary as co-redeemer (did she die for my sins?)....by their fruits you will know them...the inquisition...praying to saints? the pope lording over people? the vast wealth, #1 landowner? can you answer my questions other than your interpretation of Jesus talking to Peter....also what about john paul praying with fire worshipers, taking the mark of shiva, ect? do you think everyone prays to the same god as your pope stated? and if not then why is he considered infallible? the structure for the church is clearly laid out in the letters jn the new testament and so is the fact that marriage could be allowed (wasn't peter himself married?) please answer these questions

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  28. governments? The Church truly is the city set on a hill that cannot be hid, per Jesus' vision.

    Mary is co-redemtrix in the sense that she is the new Eve just as Jesus is the new Adam. Mary's "YES" to God helped correct Eve's no just as Jesus' yes to the will of God completely redeemed us for their sin. The Catholic Church does not honor Mary anymore than God did by making her the mother of Jesus. As the Bible says, everyone will call Mary blessed. We simply honor her as the Bible and God do and as has been done in the Church for all history. The rosary is not vain repetitions. The Hail Mary prayer is a biblical prayer, as well as the Lord's Prayer. Vain Repetitions refers to the hypocrites in synogogues who pray loud and over and over for the purpose of appearance to other people. You're nuts if you don't think that more prayer is better than just praying 1 minute per day, or that prayer in numbers with groups of people is better than praying along as the Bible says.

    Paul was referring to Jews about who to be careful about.

    People kiss the Pope's ring out of reverence to the authority that Jesus Himself gave to the bishop of Rome.

    One Protestant preacher's 10,000 square foot mansion could house dozens of poor people. What's your point? It is good that the Catholic Church preserves priceless artwork and adorns God's houses with the fruits of people's talents. It doesn't do it out of greed, such as the protestant pastor living in a mansion.

    The Catholic Church existed from the time Jesus founded it all the way through now. It existed BEFORE Constantine was even born, although mostly underground to avoid persecution by the Roman empire. It wasn't until Constantine's conversion due to a vision he had that he allowed the Church to come above ground and declared that his empire would convert.

    Yes, some kings did some horrible things in the past, the Spanish Inquisition where they tortured/killed some people during interrogations to weed out the 5th column Jews who were in the Church undermining it with their heresy (perhaps we could use another Inquisition to get the Freemasons out, although without the torture). But God never promised that his Church would be free from sinners. You are insane to hold it to such an impossible standard. What God did promise was that the Church would be guided to all truth, that the Pope would be infallable on matters of Church doctrine (not that he would be impeccable, or free from sin). Also the pope is only infallable when he is speaking ex cathadra on doctrine. He is NOT infallable when giving personal opinions on various other issues. God has kept his promises, since the Church has NEVER gone back on any of its teachings, despite the thousands of liberal Protestants who broke away to change teachings such as divorce, contraception, homosexuality, etc. How's your church doing? Do you use contraception?

    ...continued below...

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  29. Again, Jesus gave Simon a name change to PETER/ROCK/KEPHA, he said "I say to you, you are Kepha, and on this Kepha I will build my Church". Peter himself is the Rock, as his name says. Name changes in the Bible are significant and always assert an important new role and authority. Likewise, giving Peter the keys to the kingdom of heaven had a significant meaning as well.

    Praying to Saints is a good thing. The Bible says prayers of the righteous are more powerful, and who is more righteous than the souls who were righteous enough to make it to heaven? The Kingdom of God is not of this world, as Jesus said. All members of the kingdom of God are connected, whether alive in body in this material world or up in heaven. There is Biblical support that they can hear our prayers. You should understand that when we "pray to saints", pray means to ask, and all we're doing is asking them to pray for us. Same with Mary, we ask her to pray for us. It's the same as you asking a righteous relative, friend, or pastor to pray for you, except we ask even MORE righteous people who are still in the Kingdom of God to pray for us. When we pray for God's will to be done on earth as it IS in heaven, we know the Saints are doing God's will and are happy to pray for us when we ask them to. Praying to saints gives you 2 bonuses: 1) prayer in number, 2) prayers of righteous.

    When the Church first started, most of the Apostles/disciples were already married. Jesus didnt seek out single people only. The ones he did seek, married or not, were asked to leave everything behind to come follow Jesus, including to leave their families behind. Paul said anyone who can remain celebate OUGHT to for their devotional service to the Church. It is a full time job to either be 1) a husband and father, or 2) a priest. The way the Church sees it, you either marry a woman in marriage, or you marry the Church when you're ordained a priest (or stay single and do neither). To become both would require that both jobs would suffer from lack of dutiful attention. So, as Jesus gave the Church the authority to "loose and bind" (allow and disallow), the Church decided it would be best that Priests devote their lives to the Church rather than splitting it amongst 2 major roles where both would suffer. Furthermore, men become celebate priests by their own choice per God's calling. If they wanted to be married instead, there is still other ways they can serve the Church without taking on such a major role and responsibility that wouldn't be given the full attention required.

    Willful denial of Truth will not get you "saved". You had better get a little more open-minded, pray to the Holy Spirit to guide you to the truth, and get off your rear and do some research. I suggest reading the book "Unabridged Christianity" by Mario Romero. It covers ALL of these Protestant challenges you mention and more, and provides answers with Biblical support as well as support from the writings of the early Church Fathers to clear up your ridiculous misconceptions. If you're interested in the Truth, you will seek it. If you're comfortable with your half truths, lies, and misconceptions, you will stay with your bitter heart right where you are with Satan, condeming Jesus' true Church.

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  30. christian for ChristNovember 11, 2009 at 11:28 AM

    #1 I can not believe a professing Christian could tell me I have a bitter heart and am with Satan? I have not made a judgement on you as there is only one judge..JESUS...

    1.mary is Jesus' mother yet you say she is also eve..this implies the same incestuos relationship that is typical of the mystery religions...CHECK OUT OSIRIS/ISIS/HORUS, OR TAMMUZ/BELTIS... She is not an intercesor for us as the saints are not either...LOOK IN THE BIBLE (Hebrews) there is one intercesor JESUS! I call Mary blessed because she was the mother of Jesus but there is no reason to pray TO her.
    There is 1 count him 1 redeemer of man JESUS!

    2. KISSING THE RING/ TOE(AT ONE TIME)--

    42But Jesus called them to him, and saith unto them, Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them.

    43But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister:

    44And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all.

    45For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

    Jesus asked no one to kiss his rings or toes but washed the disciples feet!

    3. inquisition---so terrible what kings do? they did nothing then with out the direction of the Pope...and where does the bible say its okay to kill people that bring heresy into your so called church? murder is murder..Jesus didn't have his disciples fight for him in the garden and doesn't expect us to pick up swords now.

    4. marriage of church bishop---

    1This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.

    2A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

    3Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

    4One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;

    5(For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

    6Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

    7Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

    pretty clear there from THE BIBLE

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  31. christian for ChristNovember 11, 2009 at 11:28 AM

    5. calling a priest father--
    9And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

    pretty clear there

    The true church exsisted before constantine yes but when SOME of the christains at the time agreed to join constantine they formed the frame work of the church/ political monster that is today the catholic church

    this will be my last post to you as I can tell you are getting angry and that is not my intent to say you are of the devil or I am of the devil. I think that Catholics do go to heaven for their faith in Jesus as that is what the one source THE BIBLE tells me. They have been mislead by a hierarchy that is of the devil and wants earthly power just as some pretestant preachers are of the devil and episcopalian ect...there is only one judge, JESUS and he judges our true faith by our hearts intent. There should be no division in Christianity as we are all of CHrist not one of peter, one of paul, one of timothy as Paul put it....and Paul did not ony warn agaisnt Jews but against wolves in sheeps clothing that are of the devil looking o gain power over God's people which is exactly what the pope, certain pastors ECT DO NOW! GOD'S KNIGDOM IS NOT MADE OF AN EARTHLY POWER STRUCTURE BUT A SPIRITUAL ONE THAT WILL FULLY MANIFEST AFTER JESUS RETURNS AGAIN...GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, MY LOVE IN JESUS' NAME

    OH YEAH AND I AM NOT A LIBERAL AND I MAY HAVE USED CONTRACEPTION AT ONE TIME BUT HAVEN'T WE "ALL SINNED AND FALLEN SHORT OF GOD'S GLORY"? THANKS BE TO GOD FOR JESUS CHRIST WHO DIED FOR MY SHORT COMINGS! AND THANK GOD FOR THE KIDS I HAVE NOW AND THE WONDERFULL LIFE FOR NOTHING GOOD COMES BUT BY GOD!!!!

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  32. anonymous states
    "Anonymous said...
    Mr Horn,
    A disturbing article; the most disturbing part being how Catholics are described as representing “ over half of all Christians” and “the faithful”, and that the next Pope will herald the beginning of “great apostasy”.
    The Catholic Church has been in apostasy since its inception. They preach a false gospel of grace PLUS works. This is what the Apostle Paul warned about in Galatians 1:6-9."
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    You were warned NOT tochange the wording of Holy Scripture in the Book of Revelation and luther ever so happily ignored that,never mind the deletion of entire chapters and books.

    It's not even what you think you know,what you know is wrong,same as the men that started their own versions of catholicism.

    perverting The Word of God to suit mans vanity and pride was never a good idea.
    Ranting about the Church founded by Christ Himself definitely isn't a good idea either.

    This chapter give the 100% truth about the masonic infiltration which has led to the current situation within The Church.

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  33. For the Protestant bigots who can't seem to understand the simple truths in the Bible:

    James 2:20-26 (KJV)

    But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

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  34. Matthew 15:3
    But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?

    Matthew 15:6
    And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.

    Mark 7:8
    For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

    Mark 7:9
    And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

    Mark 7:13
    Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

    Colossians 2:8
    Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

    1 Peter 1:18
    Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;

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  35. If we are in the last of the 13 baktuns, it looks like the 13th and final baktun started on or around the Christians of Waco were sacrificed to the fires of Moloch. 1993 + 19.7 = 2012

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  36. And Jesus said,"When the time comes, I will feed you."

    I have seen satan to take the exact likeness of Jesus. Many, many things...

    Cling unto JESUS ALONE!Only Unto Jesus. Pax Domine.

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  37. Does anyone have a take{a far fetched one too...hang on!} That the Large Hadron Collider from CERN in in fact a "stargate" and that may be a possible way for Apollyon/Satan to return?I have come across an interview with the director of CERN and he stated that in fact the LHC IS a stargate and they wondered "what may come through it" or "what they could put through it."...any takers? anyone come across this too? I will try to post the link.

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  38. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/06/lhc_dimensional_portals/
    here is the link...

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  39. Three cheers for Christian for Christ. Say it like it really is, and preach what the Bible says, not what the Catholic church says, not what any pope says, and not what thousnads of Catholics over centuries have said. There is ONE voice about these things, and that voice has spoken in the Bible. What IS written there IS true. So much Catholic doctrine is pure unBiblical junk, and not worthy of study, and anyone who thinks differently has dethroned Jesus Christ in favor of man's doctrines and man's thinking. All major denominations have similar junk that they lift up as idols, which is why people need to read and study the Good Book for themselves. The Holy Spirit is your teacher---you DO NOT need a priest for anything that God can give you directly.

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  40. to loren,
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  42. November 17: United Kingdom: The British House of Lords passes the Civil Partnership Act to allow same-sex couples to obtain civil partnerships. This is the final legislative hurdle for the bill, becomes law on receiving Royal Assent by Queen Elizabeth II on November 18.

    Poor ol' Prince Charles has apparently been in the closet for 30 years, hiding his sexuality from the world via Princess Diana, Camilla and having kids. According to UK trash paper The Globe, that is! According to the rag, Camilla spilled the beans herself — yep, that's believable! The prospect of a gay king heading up our monarchy someday is pretty rad though.

    The Supreme Governor of the Church of England is a title held by the British monarchs which signifies their titular leadership over the Anglican Church of England.1536 Henry VIII had broken with Rome(due to him wanting a divorce and not be granted one), seized the church's assets in England and declared the Church of England as the established church with himself as its head.

    Since the 1990s, the Anglican Communion has struggled with controversy regarding homosexuality in the church. In 2002, the Diocese of New Westminster, in the Anglican Church of Canada, permitted the blessing of same-sex unions. The crisis deepened in 2003 when two openly gay men in England and the United States became candidates for bishop. In the Church of England, Jeffrey John eventually succumbed to pressure to withdraw his name from consideration to be the Bishop of Reading. In the Episcopal Church USA, Gene Robinson was elected and consecrated Bishop of New Hampshire, becoming the first openly gay bishop in the Anglican Communion.

    As is the head so shall the tail be.

    Daniel 11
    36And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

    37Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

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  43. The prince, who will become Supreme Governor of the Church of England when he becomes king, has already said that he wants to be Defender of Faith - not Defender of the Faith - when he accedes to the throne.

    By the way, Prince Charles Coat of Arms (Revelations 13:2) has another symbol--The Order of the Garter. The Order of the Garter is the parent organization over Free Masonry, world-wide. When a man becomes a 33rd Degree Mason, he swears allegiance to that organization, and thereby to Prince Charles.

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  44. please see: www.thewarningsecondcoming.com
    and know that the Lord God will deal with these minions of satan.

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  45. Greetings in the Resurrected Christ!

    Jesus Christ and myself were conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit. Some 1,925 years later Christ has deemed it proper that I should be reborn and placed in Paradise, all in one Almighty stroke of His brush - and this He has done through normal consummation via my parents, John & Mary.

    All glory, honor, and praise be to the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit!

    I am the resurrected Prophet of the Most High, St. John the Baptist, whom Jesus Christ calls "the Elias who was to come", enjoying the rapture of Christ's love in the duty of Petrus Romanus (Peter the Roman), your ultimate, penultimate authority.

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  46. After reading several of the comments by promoters of the Mother of Harlots, Roman Catholiciam, is there any doubt that they have been turned over to a strong delusion to beleve a lie, because they love not the truth.

    Only satan comes to rob, steal, destroy, and kill, he is the father of lies and a murderer from the begining. Doesn't that describe Roman Catholicism from its beginngin? It certainly does.

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  47. Even most catholics are unaware of these things. However, protestants had best tame their own pride and wickedness- Scripture is ALL ABOUT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THROUGH TO THE END. This means that the Catholic Church is the true church that has become the whore, and there are examples of God restoring the whore to Himself. The abomination of desolation is in the HOLY PLACE, which is the Catholic Church. There is no holy temple in Israel. As to the similarities between other false religions and Catholicism, Paul tells us Christ, and Christians, CONQUER. Since the beginning of the Church, it has CONQUERED every symbol and every holy day of the imitations put out to mislead the people. The Apostle tells us that the purification will begin FIRST WITH THE CHURCH, and he wonders, then, what it will be like for the rest??? As Jesus warns us, there will come a day when people will think they're doing God's Will by killing you. This day I can see coming, even by our Christian 'brethren.' Christ will triumph. He will restore His bride to purity and holiness. As long as John 6 is in the bible, I will be Catholic, if separated from the great whore, but certainly receiving the true body and blood of Christ. There is no protestant denomination that even has a credible claim to that.

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  48. The false churches are identified by their association with Sunday, Christmas and Easter. Yes, Jesus Christ was born and resurrected, but neither He or his apostles observed his birth, and his apostles did not observe his resurrection either. There is no such account in the bible. The days that are described as holy convocations - holy gatherings - are found in Leviticus 23, and Christmas and Easter are not to be found. The list begins with the weekly Sabbath. There are no other holy days listed in the bible outside of that list.

    In addition to the Sabbath commandment, there is this telling prophesy in Isaiah 66:23
    "And it shall come to pass, that from one New Moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, ALL FLESH shall come to worship before Me", says the Lord. Notice how it's weekly on the Sabbath that "all flesh" will worship him, not Sunday or the first day of the week.

    Also, Easter is the modern name for the ancient fertility goddess the Babylonians knew as Ishtar, and Christmas - December 25th - was the birthdate of Mithra, a pagan sun god. Both "holy days" are Satan's deception. He is the great deceiver and counterfeiter.

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